Posts Tagged ‘egalitarian’


December 12, 2008

Well, I finally responded.  A while back I blogged about a message I got from a friend of mine who I know from college.  He and his wife were on staff with the parachurch organization that I was heavily involved in all four years of college.  I co-“led” a homegroup with him and was friends with both him and his wife.  I finally responded to him today.  A friend of mine posted a reponse to the message I received as I sent it to a few folks in my support network for prayer and thoughts on my response.  I got some great feedback from others as well.  I have been thinking about it some but just wasn’t ready to respond.  Anyway, I literally just sent it so who knows what kind of response I will receive, but here is what I wrote:

Hello (Friend’s name here) : ) 

It is good to hear from you. I hope you and (wife) and the kids are doing well. Please say “hi” for me!

Let me start my response by saying that I sincerely appreciate your concern as well as your willingness to dialogue with me about this. To cut to the chase, it all boils down to hermeneutics/interpretation. The context of the passage as well as the way the translators chose to interpret the words from hebrew or greek make a big difference in how any given passage is understood and applied today. I don’t think the truths change, I just think there is some legwork required to sort out the foundational truth(s) from the cultural application of Biblical times. So I am by no means ignoring the Bible as a whole or parts of it. The Bible is the inspired word of God. That said, I don’t cover my head in church and I don’t give money the the church in Jerusalem even though the Bible specifically says we are to do these things as well. Am I ignoring these things? Nope. I know they are there. I just think they were for a certain time and place.

Since you know me pretty well, it is safe to say that you know I am a leader. I always have been. In every area of my life I have been a leader. It seems odd to me that my gifts would be welcome everywhere but the one place it matters the most.

Once I started to feeling called to ministry (and by that I mean ministry in general), things got pretty intense. I have done a lot of reading on both sides of the issue. If you are interested in discussing more take a look at Discovering Biblical Equality by Pierce and Groothius. I read this alongside Piper’s Recovering Biblical Masculinity and Femininity and really learned a lot.

Well, I guess that’s all for now. It’s been a long day and I am tired. I hope you will be able to see that I am trying to honor God with my life regardless of the fact that we may always disagree on this issue.

Grace and peace,
Sara <><



June 3, 2008

So I’m really struggling with something(s).  Tonight in my small group we got into a discussion about egalitarianism vs. complimentarianism.  Let me say outright that my struggle is not with where I stand on that issue.  Though I hold the idea (or try to) with humility, I believe when Christ died on the cross and rose again, He redeemed much more than just the ability for humans to have a personal relationship with God.  I believe he redeemed our ability to have relationships with each other that are based on mutuality and equality.  I believe both the husband and wife are equally responsible before God for leading their family together as God would have them lead.  I think this looks different for every couple out there because everyone is different.  We all have different strengths and weaknesses as well as different talents and spiritual gifts.  My struggle is (once again) how God made me.  To be clear, since I have spoken about inadequacies quite a bit in past posts, my struggle this evening is not with inadequacy.  My struggle is trying to figure out in what ways are my actions a result of my God given giftings, talents and personality and in what ways are they a result of the fact that I am a imperfect person living in an imperfect world living an imperfect life.  It seems as though the times I feel most “myself” and feel most comfortable in who I feel God has made me to be are also the times where I get myself in the most trouble.  My desire to discuss and debate is interpreted as argumentative attacks.  In a certain sense, I feel my struggle is with adequacy.  I speak with authority to a certain extent because I naurally do so.  It is also a factor that for this topic in particular, it is so common for people to read the “traditional” things they have been taught about gender roles into the text instead of bringing the text to our understanding of gender roles.  We have it bass ackwards on a grand scale and we just keep feeding that cycle.  It is “conversations” like these that make me want to just shut up and not say anything.  And yet God calls me to speak.  Am I blameless in the way I go about doing that?  Absolutely not.  And I am sure that is part of what this is about.  And it is also very much related to the fact that I bore the burden of tradition based hierarchy for over a decade and it sucked.  I am just rambling now and my thoughts are becoming less and less coherent so I will end. 

Good grief I so just want to understand who the heck God made me to be and be able to walk in that in confidence that isn’t cocky or prideful.  I don’t feel I am these things, but there is obviously something going on here that I am too blind to see or too stubborn to acknowledge.